tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3410982774062066015.post1816362838761915195..comments2024-02-27T17:10:14.937+00:00Comments on Hackney cyclist: Why are Hackney's segregated cycle lanes being removed?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3410982774062066015.post-56663685971075229862013-09-13T11:01:35.846+01:002013-09-13T11:01:35.846+01:00Frankly, I like to see the Hackney Branch of the L...Frankly, I like to see the Hackney Branch of the LCC expelled from the LCC. The South East part of the borough has had just about all of its cycle infrastructure removed. The juctions at Eastway and the A12 interchange, both having been completely rebuilt recently without any provision for cyclist whatsoever and with the sole purpose increasing traffic capacity and parking provisiion, are going to produce fatalties without a doubt. The dualcarriagewayising of Mare Street is an awful waste of road space. The removal of the Toucan crossing at the top of Broadway market is another retrograde step as is the installation of nasty pinchpoints all over the place. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3410982774062066015.post-70040320069496894162013-08-22T19:59:46.655+01:002013-08-22T19:59:46.655+01:00Maybe "fantastic" was too strong a word ...Maybe "fantastic" was too strong a word but it is certainly much better than what it was replaced with. The cycle lane was a little narrow but certainly wide enough to go down single file without any issues, as you can clearly see with the guy cycling in the street view picture. Why was it removed though? Why wasn't the money instead spent on continuing it further down the road? Or widening it?<br /><br />As for Goldsmith's Row; I said in the post it is a fantastic scheme, I was just using it as an example of segregated lanes that had been removed. We should be building segregated cycle lanes, not ripping them out.Hackney Cyclisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08382730797536027651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3410982774062066015.post-12046231918694507802013-08-22T11:36:54.119+01:002013-08-22T11:36:54.119+01:00Are you genuinely suggesting that left-turn cycle ...Are you genuinely suggesting that left-turn cycle lane was "fantastic"? What about the very real danger of being encouraged to cycle into a stream of fast-moving motor traffic once you've made the turn? Or the fact that it's only about 80cm wide?<br /><br />Is that what you saw in the Netherlands during your trips there, and what you aspire to here? <br /><br />And as @Gerhard Weiss points out above, Goldsmith's Row *IS* segregated. Just because it doesn't have a cycle track along it, doesn't mean it's not separated from motor traffic.<br /><br />The Dutch separate cycle and motor traffic in many ways, and tracks is just one of them.<br /><br />I actually agree with your proposition that major roads and junctions in Hackney need quality tracks to make them appealing to everyone, but I don't think this blogpost makes the case very well.Jimmy-Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3410982774062066015.post-43053289247052401792013-08-21T21:43:21.223+01:002013-08-21T21:43:21.223+01:00I can't comment on those left turn tracks, but...I can't comment on those left turn tracks, but I'm sure LCC in Hackney will know the story behind them. I suspect the benefit of not being left hooked at the lights might be outweighed by the collision risk at the exit of the track.<br />On the Goldsmith row point I think you need to make a destinction between segregation by route and kerb segregated tracks along the carriageway. Hackney is rather good at the former, which is perhaps the reason for its success.<br />On some of those filtered streets 90% of motor traffic has gone. No, they haven't fully segregated. But 90% segregation is in my view almost as good and achievable. If you count 90% segregation, you could argue that Hackney has probably the highest proportion of segregated facilities in London, maybe the UK.<br />I'd say that ironically cycling in Hakney is as great as it is because of its many segregated cycle facilities. They are just not 100% segregated, nor the sort of track you see in NL.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05696131957624466856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3410982774062066015.post-65192955557494902922013-08-21T20:51:02.735+01:002013-08-21T20:51:02.735+01:00Could not agree more! I have been cycling in the b...Could not agree more! I have been cycling in the borough for 30 years, and it is depressing having to argue the case for segregation. The case is now quite clear. If you want more folk to cycle, build for it. I love cycling here, and I am deeply aware that elsewhere is much worse, but Hackney could and should be kicking the arse off cycling. Compact, inner city borough with a young population. Cycling rates are stalling, and that is not good enough. Great blog! Jonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04249766610859816646noreply@blogger.com